#231927 - 17/08/10 04:02 PM
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you buggar, i was watching that now everyone will see it. o well, let the bidding begin
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#231928 - 17/08/10 04:28 PM
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#231929 - 17/08/10 04:43 PM
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ive heard so
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#231930 - 17/08/10 04:51 PM
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How much do they go for new?
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#231934 - 17/08/10 06:24 PM
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ford cant get them here! i have been waiting 3 months for them to get me one and they cant!
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#231936 - 17/08/10 06:32 PM
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pumaspeed wanted over £200 for the 60mm body last time i looked! if you know someone who works for ford you can get the 60mm for £93 
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#231938 - 17/08/10 06:36 PM
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i know 3 people  but none of them can get me one  i am still being a pikey and borrowing Ayesha's! i have had it since before FITP as i cant get a body from ford!
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#231940 - 17/08/10 06:47 PM
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Heres one i sold earlier,  Top one is the 60mm against the standard one on my ST.
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#231944 - 17/08/10 08:26 PM
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think im just going to get in a bidding war on the one on ebay for myself, so if anyone on here wants to go against me, im ready for you 
guess whos the winning bidder atm
but honestly tez i cant get one! i must be doing something wrong!
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#231946 - 17/08/10 08:34 PM
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#231947 - 17/08/10 08:39 PM
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hemel hempstead ford cant get me one, leicester or st neots
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#231948 - 17/08/10 08:40 PM
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St albans??
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#231949 - 17/08/10 09:05 PM
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think im just going to get in a bidding war on the one on ebay for myself, so if anyone on here wants to go against me, im ready for you
guess whos the winning bidder atm
but honestly tez i cant get one! i must be doing something wrong!
I will ask my dealer tomorrow as the parts person is a mate of mine, i bought a few and never bothered with one for my car due to the car being under warranty, they sold like hotcakes abroad, sold them for £150 each. If he cant get me one for next day then there must be a shortage of them.
they are on back order
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#231950 - 17/08/10 09:22 PM
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Contact these guys: http://myworld.ebay.co.uk/atfirstparts/ They supply the Ford Dealers and are owned by Ford. I have been there and the warehouse is massive. They sell any Ford part cheaper than the dealers apparently.
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#231951 - 17/08/10 09:57 PM
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im a last minute bidder, no point bidding until then or the price rockets
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#231953 - 18/08/10 09:00 AM
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I don't trust that eBay one. Looks shabby  I paid a lot of money for mine and it was worth it to get a brand new one. It's not about power, it's about fixing all the breathing issues the has! It even sorted out my air to fuel ratio so my engine light turned off!  Great bit of kit. I recommend to all tuners!  Once fitted the revs settle down after you run it in! 
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#231954 - 18/08/10 11:02 AM
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Been to see me mate at my local dealers to day, there is one 60mm throttle body on the shelf and i can get another three for next day delivery. So they are available.
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#231955 - 18/08/10 02:57 PM
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Does sorting out the breathing difficulties the ST have increase the engine life in any way?
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#231959 - 18/08/10 04:33 PM
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what is the stock code number for it tez?
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#231963 - 18/08/10 06:54 PM
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"Yes we will get that for you sir"
Phone rings again
"Sorry Tez just bought that one as well, must be some crazy car hes building"
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#231965 - 20/08/10 03:19 PM
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did you find out the code Tez? 
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#231966 - 20/08/10 04:24 PM
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does it make much of a difference?
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#231967 - 20/08/10 04:32 PM
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This is the code i got Finis code 1556736, stock order no 46908 (034).
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#231968 - 20/08/10 05:57 PM
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#231972 - 22/08/10 03:51 PM
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gutted i didnt get it. prob would of gone to £50. o well, think i may just get a new one from ford for my birthday. does anyone know if this will benefit me with having onlly a K&N and flexi. may be fitting the manifold soon tho.
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#231973 - 23/08/10 06:38 AM
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i got a notfication last night from ebay that it was endind. i rushed home from my mates as my phone bat died to find it ended 1 minute earlier. it went for £31 and i was prepared to pay more
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#231974 - 23/08/10 09:41 PM
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i got outbit right at the end and i didnt get the email till after it ended due to lack of signal
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#231975 - 23/08/10 09:41 PM
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thanks tez for the code
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#231980 - 25/08/10 11:04 PM
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5-10 mins including taking photos aswell
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#231981 - 26/08/10 05:29 AM
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#231985 - 26/08/10 10:08 AM
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so air from the throttle body is then transferred to the pistons?
yup, unless you get ITB's 
Individual Throttle Bodies 
http://www.drm-msport.co.uk/ST150.aspx
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#231990 - 26/08/10 11:32 AM
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how much would those itm's set me back. they gotta be over 1K. saw loads of zs' with them at ff and they look the biz
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#231991 - 26/08/10 01:50 PM
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#231992 - 26/08/10 07:56 PM
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mine turned up at ford today wooo ordered on the 14th may and came today not bad service there fraud!
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#231994 - 26/08/10 08:58 PM
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yeah its only a few bolts, easy peasy
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#231997 - 27/08/10 12:50 PM
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It controls the amount of air that enters the engine. The ECU will open or close the flap depending on how much you press down the accelerator and also based on other information it recieves from other sensors. Because this is 5mm bigger, it should allow more air into the engine, however the ECU may adjust this by making the air gap smaller.
However, unfortunately the ST engine is already over throttled (as are most Ford gas engines these days) - therefore you will not get any more air into the engine. You will just reach the maximum air flow value with less pedal travel than before. The ECU will not know you have fitted a bigger throttle so depending on how the software works one of two things will happen:
1) The throttle will move with the pedal in the same way it did with the old smaller one, the MAF sensor will see the increased air flow for a given pedal position and increase the fueling appropriately until the full load torque limit is reached for that operating condition and at that point the throttle will open no more - regardless of pedal position. The effect of this is that your car may feel more 'responsive' but this is only because you have to move the pedal less to get the same performance. Maximum torque will not change.
2) The software's pedal map (which equates a pedal position to a torque demand or fuel quantity) will just move the new bigger throttle body to a smaller opening than it did with the old one to get the same torque requested by the pedal as before. Again it will only continue opening it until the full load limit is reached. The effect of this is that it will not feel any different!
This is also how the engine limits it's output in 1st and 2nd gears - it just shuts the throttle a bit.
I have been told by someone running an ST engine on a dyno that fitting the bigger throttle body makes no difference to peak power - the manifold is a bigger restriction.
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#231998 - 27/08/10 09:55 PM
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i didnt understand any of that but dayyyyyuuummm
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#231999 - 28/08/10 08:40 PM
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i fitted mine today worked great, seemed louder induction noise, n a little more throttle response as in it seems to rev higher with less throttle put on. i also fitted my decat today and all i can say is its sounds soo good and pops and bangs so much!!! but my mil light is still off... 
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yep i have had a few must have sold about ten, that one on the dealers shelf is one i forgot to pick up 
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