ok for those of you who wanted pictures here they are. for some reason they dont look as bad in fotos, but close up they do!
pic 1 & 2. see the right hand side of the tyres to see how much its worn compared to the left


and pic 3 i tried to show the wear again, it is on the marker on the right hand side, but plenty of wear on the left.


ignore the yellow pen, i wanted them marked so that they wernt thrown out at the garage as scrap, as i wanted them for evidence if it happens again!!

christ! is ur tracking ok? or ru a nutter on the road?

The camber is out of alignment

tracking is fine on the front and you cant track rear wheels. and according to ford there is no fault. but they lie. and no i'm not a nutter. ask anybody who i met up with a couple of month ago. scott will vouch for that! i am a sensible driver!

I'm with Pinky on this one.

I can vouch for you Amanda, very sensible driver...God only knows what you thought of my driving

ok so i go to the garage and say the camber is out of alignment and they will laugh at me cos i'm a girl

I think that on the st you can make adjustments on the rear track/camber

you cant track the rear on a fiesta

Find a place with a four wheel geometry test then send the evidence to Ford.

The only thing is they will say it could have been knocked out by road damage. Even though it would have taken a hefty whack to put it out of alignment.

If the alignment is all ok a mis-torqued wheel nut could cause uneven tyre wear.

is a four wheel geometry test the same as a four wheel laser alignment test? as its already had that done. its on both side of the car at the rear so it can't have been road damage unless something strange has happened. it both rear tyres that are done not just 1. anyways i cant be bothered arguing anymore with ford as im going on holiday soon and havent got the time. its got new tyres on so that will see me till i get back then im going to torment them again!

Same thing happened to my fronts... how annoying.

By looking at th epictures u can see is not due to fast driving even if it was the tyres would be use even which is not the case for them!

my dad comes with me. he knows whats what. except they start talking tat to him too and them we both get mad when they wont listen

if its worn on the inner edge it's running to much negative camber if it'sworn on the outer it's running to much positive camber.has it had a bump?is the stub axle bent slightly,this would cause the tyres to wear.

i know its a long shot but i read somewere that tyres are sided and have a directional arrow on the tyre,maybe they were fitted incorrectly,just a thought !!!

did you have any luck with that PM i sent ya Fordie?

i'm just looking into that, thanks. cant go to te garage till i get back of holidays though

try taking it to another ford garage dear, they might actually try to do something

What use will sending a letter or pics to Pirelli make? Surely all they'll say is the tyre wears according to the way the car is set up (correctly or incorrectly)?

It has been known before that tire manufacturers have issued faulty batches of tires and also that they have had to replace tires under warranty so in my opinion it's worth trying. If all the evidence is there to proove that the car is set up properly then the worse than can happen is that Amanda wastes a stamp. In the best case she gets some money back for the faulty tires or even two free tires. Tire manufacturers are usually very receptive to customer feedback and complaints.

Ahhhh yes I never really thought of that!

Did you hear any continuous sound coming up from the rear wheels before the tyres were worn?

was i supposed to?

The wear shown on the rear tyres, proves there is something wrong with the cars set up. Is you car lowered by some chance? if not there is defo a problem with the rear suspension, that wear has not be cause by hard driving, and Frauds need to investigate it again. If you get no joy ring CAC and keep on ringing until they do something about it.

well its going in for a service soon so im going to mention it again

Mention it! I'd dump the two tyre on the reception desk and say "now tell me theres no flipping problem with the rear set up!" I spoke to my mate whos a master tech (at Frauds) today and his first response was " somethings f*cked on the back!" Once they sort it out then dump the bill for the new tyres on them aswell.

they have already seen the rear tyres. they blamed it on front alignment (when the front ones were perfect). whatever

know its an old thread, but didnt seem like you get a fix? It not the tyres fault though for definate, so you will see the problem again in 10k

did they check the camber? that looks like camber wear not toe, thoough since its a torsion bar rear you shouldnt really get camber wear? It should ahve some negative camber, but not enough to do that, even -2 with toe would take a while to kill em.

if its help these are fords specs, ask to see measurements against all of these, unless they can do so they havent checked it all properly. Keep on at em as its 100% a mechanical issue with your car!

front toe: +00.09 (tolerance +00.04 to +00.14)
front camber: -00.44 (-02.07 to +00.39)
caster: +03.25 (+02.18 to +04.32)
rear toe: +00.16 (+00.05 to +00.25)
rear camber: -01.02(-02.18 to +00.13)

16" rims
front toe +1.1mm (tolerance +0.5mm to +1.6mm)
rear toe +1.8mm (+0.7mm to +3.0mm)

17" rims
front toe +1.1mm (+0.5mm to +1.7mm)
rear toe +2.0mm (+0.8mm to 3.2mm)

eddiesi, thanks for these values, they are most interesting. I assume the first set of values is in degrees right?

But what makes me laugh is the tolerances they give!

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rear camber: -01.02(-02.18 to +00.13)

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They don't half cover their ar55es with such big tolerances... No wonder Amanda's car comes back with an "everything is fine" message, even if it has a negative camber at 2 degrees (-2) it's within the bloomin' tolerances but it does not take a scientist to even predict it will wear tires on the inside! It's ridiculous for heaven's sake!

RS team goes to great lengths refining the handling of this car and then someone at Ford gives the green light to publish camber and toe-in tolerances for the rear (let alone for the front) that actually allow differences on BOTH sides of 0! No wonder that different people are having very different handling experiences with their cars. Now I understand why some people say their ST is very tail happy...

I think that with these values eddiesi has hit the nail on the head. I'd ask to see the actual measured values on the car and compare them against these - look no further!

well i got new tyres on so we will see in 10k. they wouldnt chek anything other than the alignment which they said was lightly out so as far as they were corncerned that was it - how i know different. but cos they thought theyd found the solution they wouldnt do anymore. even though the question is: is the wear is down to alignment, why were the front tyres in good condition - surely if it was alignment it would be the front that went and not the back as you can align rear tyres. however its done now so i always check my tyres and the first sign of uneven wear on the back, its going into the garage