#98946 - 01/08/07 05:07 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: f2evo1]
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Registered: 22/01/07
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First gear is very low and short, delivering huge torque to the front wheels. and you've got to take it easy on the gas. I've noticed it's especially bad in cold weather when the choke is on - I either pull out into the road like an Exocet missile or I get the famous 'ST stall'!
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#98947 - 01/08/07 05:19 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: Andy2]
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Fiesta Crazy
Registered: 14/05/06
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Loc: West Midlands
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'Clutch Control'
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#98949 - 01/08/07 06:18 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: babyboom]
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Registered: 22/01/07
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Clutch control is especially difficult on the Fiesta ST. It feels different to all the other cars I've driven - it's got a kind of 'all or nothing' about it.
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#98950 - 01/08/07 08:09 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: fiestaman]
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#98952 - 02/08/07 04:14 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: Lplus]
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Registered: 20/04/07
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I think the general consensus is right, you ar probably used to having to floor the pedal in a slower car to get it to move - not needed in the ST. However, I have on occasion inadvertnetly caused wheelspin, once quite recently was coming back from a friends and was trying to get home quickly and gave it too much joining a round about, was stuck on the spot and there were several pedestrians which must of though "what an idiot"  Ah well, it happens, but you will get used to it given a few weeks 
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#98954 - 02/08/07 08:16 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: JamesUK]
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Registered: 28/07/07
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Hi James,
yeah thats what i hate. people look at you like your an idiot when it revs but you just can't help it. i've had mine 3 weeks, and just about getting used to it. how u finding yours? what colour you got?
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#98956 - 03/08/07 09:06 AM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: Leah]
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Registered: 02/01/05
Posts: 6067
Loc: Shoreham-by-Sea, W. Sussex, UK
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Yeh its tricky with the AC and HFS on because they take so much juice
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#98957 - 03/08/07 02:39 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: OrangeHippo]
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Registered: 02/08/07
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Loc: Worcester, UK
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how u finding yours? what colour you got?
Blue with top stripes.
Not so much revving today, its in the tyre garage with two flat tyres and two dented alloys after something on the M5 took out me, a Nissan and a lorry! 
Not having a good week.
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#98958 - 03/08/07 03:15 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: JamesUK]
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Registered: 06/06/06
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how u finding yours? what colour you got?
Blue with top stripes.
Not so much revving today, its in the tyre garage with two flat tyres and two dented alloys after something on the M5 took out me, a Nissan and a lorry!
Not having a good week.
sorry to heard that!that going to cost u!! 
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#98960 - 03/08/07 03:49 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: babyboom]
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Registered: 02/08/07
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that going to cost u!!
Yes. Yes it is. Mucho money!  Should all be sorted by this time tommorow though. Just have to get p*^&^ed tonight to take my mind off it 
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anti-stall feature
Wow, Chris if there *IS* an anti-stall feature then mine is BROKEN. i stalled it three times on the driveway the first day i had it. Once backwards, twice forwards  Be very interested to hear what other peoples do though....
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#98962 - 04/08/07 08:16 AM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: babyboom]
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Registered: 28/07/05
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Loc: Northampton
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Yes ST does have anti-stall, it's all built in with the drive-by-wire accelerator.
To really notice it, try rolling slowly down a hill without any gas! You will feel (and see rev counter bounce) the engine rev/dip/rev/dip....
Makes you look like a dumpling in queing traffic, just edging forward going down hill.
Still even with it you can still stall the engine!!
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#98964 - 04/08/07 09:53 AM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: JamesUK]
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Registered: 07/07/07
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anti-stall feature
Wow, Chris if there *IS* an anti-stall feature then mine is BROKEN. i stalled it three times on the driveway the first day i had it. Once backwards, twice forwards Be very interested to hear what other peoples do though....
Yup mines broken too....I stall it at least once a week...lol
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#98966 - 29/09/07 10:49 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: mstolton]
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Registered: 16/09/07
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 same here!!!! my first test drive was interesting! im used to my diesel kangoo van so i got a suprise when i floored the out of the dealers forecourt!!! the salesman laughed and said "every one does it" im getting used to it now after 2 weeks but it does catch me off gaurd every other day lol i love my it makes me smile!!!!!!!!!!!!
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#98968 - 01/10/07 08:03 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: Bradders]
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Sit it on about 3nhalf revs or 4
Cripes, i've been sitting on TWO! Seemed the best way of not having the "look at that racing toss pot" looks from the other cars
Edited by JamesUK (01/10/07 08:04 PM)
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#98970 - 01/10/07 10:27 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: Bradders]
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Fiesta Nutter
Registered: 26/09/06
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Loc: Cambs
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The quaife unit wont stop wheel spin when accelerating.... the power has to go somewhere. It will lessen the wheelspin in conering or pulling off from stand still whilst turning the wheel (like onto a road) but not in a sraight line.
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#98971 - 02/10/07 05:19 AM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: JamesUK]
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Sit it on about 3nhalf revs or 4
did already start at 3000 RPM and have tyre smoke everywhere so not sure that the best way to do a quick start! 
Edited by ChrisCumbria (02/10/07 05:45 AM)
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#98972 - 02/10/07 08:24 AM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: steve1981]
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Registered: 19/02/05
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The quaife unit wont stop wheel spin when accelerating.... the power has to go somewhere. It will lessen the wheelspin in conering or pulling off from stand still whilst turning the wheel (like onto a road) but not in a sraight line.
I don't think so Steve. The Quaife ATB works very much like a Torsen differential. The only circumstance where it does not work is when one wheel is totally free (i.e. in the air) but as long as both wheels are able to transmit torque then torque is biased automatically between the two. It will actually work mostly in a straight line. Of course every system has its limitations and in extreme situation, both driven wheels will begin to loose traction and spin but compared to a standard "open" diff the improvement will be phenomenal.
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#98973 - 02/10/07 01:28 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: Nick02]
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Registered: 26/04/07
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The Quaife ATB makes a massive difference steve, ive seen a couple installed on other cars. It stops a hell of a lot of wheel spinning and gives so much more traction. Like nick said, it's a phenomenal difference, just costs a few.
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#98974 - 02/10/07 07:29 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: Bradders]
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Registered: 02/01/05
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Loc: Shoreham-by-Sea, W. Sussex, UK
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Orrrrrr £350 if someone wants one I know of one for sale The only thing though it makes driving in the wet even more "interesting"
Edited by PinkRinse (02/10/07 07:30 PM)
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#98975 - 02/10/07 07:42 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: PinkRinse]
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Registered: 26/09/06
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The ATB unit can only direct the torque away from a free spinning wheel. If you drop the clutch at 4000rpm (as people are suggesting is good practice for pulling away) both wheels will either spin or you'll stall the engine, quaife ATB or not. Yes, it can help with moving the torque to the wheel with most traction, but it can't limit the torque generated by the engine..... the power has to go somewhere. I think these are bloody good bits of gear but the idea that it can prevent wheelspin altogether is a bit far fetched considering the mechancial nature of its torque control..... still, cheaper than traction control and you get a quaife sticker on your car) Pinkrinse..... who has the ATB for sale... I've been looking at these for a while 
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#98976 - 02/10/07 08:46 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: steve1981]
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The bf does! I'll PM you But in the dry the grip is just phenomenial! Really is amazing.
Edited by PinkRinse (02/10/07 08:46 PM)
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#98977 - 02/10/07 09:06 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: steve1981]
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Registered: 19/02/05
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If you drop the clutch at 4000rpm (as people are suggesting is good practice for pulling away) both wheels will either spin or you'll stall the engine, quaife ATB or not.
This is just not true Steve. If you have an "open" differential, the wheel with less grip will loose traction and as soon as this happens, it will receive ALL of the torque leaving zero torque to the better traction wheel. The result is that only one wheel will be spinning. This is exactly what an ATB or torsen diff will prevent.
Try wheelspinning any car with an open differential and you'll see that it will always leave only one tyre mark on the floor, straight line or not.
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I think these are bloody good bits of gear but the idea that it can prevent wheelspin altogether is a bit far fetched considering the mechancial nature of its torque control..... still, cheaper than traction control and you get a quaife sticker on your car)
With 150 bhp and 190 Nm, which let's face it is not exactly race car performance, going through 205 low profile tires I don't think it's far fetched at all. As for traction control, well, that's really not going to help getting more power on the road, all it does is simply to remove power which cannot be transmitted. Good for safety, but not really a performance oriented feature.
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#98978 - 03/10/07 05:02 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: Nick02]
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i only use 2000 rpm, and you can even pull away in second with that amount of rev's and i've only had my for 2 week's!!!
Edited by molurus (03/10/07 05:03 PM)
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#98979 - 03/10/07 05:37 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: molurus]
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Registered: 26/04/07
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Find a straight quiet road (preferably a long car park) and practice your starts! trust me 3500rpm is best start but clutch control has to be perfect! But nick i would say the Quaife is a performance enhancer because you will have a lot quicker accerleration with it and with the perfect launch will make a huge difference. My mate has got one on his saxo and he barely wheelspins in the rain at high rpm.
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#98981 - 03/10/07 08:10 PM
Re: Wheel Spinning
[Re: Nick02]
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Registered: 26/04/07
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Ah right, i get ya pinkrise, whos selling one? im interested, pm me
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