Hi, I'm a new user to the forum, and am Budden's mate. I own a VTS, and have never driven an ST but i know they're solid cars.

However, i do think one or two people are underestimating the handling capabilities of the Saxo. Remember this car is 935kg in weight, it is extremely well balanced and nibble through corners. Jeremy Clarkson hailed the VTS as the 2nd best handling car in the world, infront of a lotus elise S1. Granted this was in 1998, but it was against such cars as ferrari 355, 550, porsce carrera, skyline r33, mitso 3000gt, bmw M3, etc etc.

On that note, i would like to say i understand the ST is also a very well balanced car, with a great suspension setup and solid chassis. It is also probably slightly stiffer than the saxo.

My conclusion is that i fail to see how a well set up car of nearly 1200kg can "leave a VTS standing" in corners which is also well set up and also 935kg. The VTS is bound to change direction just as quick if not quicker!

Still i do like ST's though!