thanks Jimmy

I think it makes more torque lower down but a bit less power, end of day all engines and sets up are different and will make random powers v other same set ups, I've no idea what mine makes all I know is, that is it is faster and pulls harder than previous MP165 and MP185, pulls well from very low speed in 2nd or 3rd when dawdling and seems to cope with similar cars of similar power either side of 200bhp when having a bit of traffic lights fun. So am very happy with it, should be 196bhp and 210nm but it wouldn't bother me if it made less than that on rollers, upset a new Golf GTI yesterday when I gapped him in 2nd at 7200rpm, he wasn't happy !!!

Haha that's great to hear, love these moments in our sublime little cars! Allready had a lot of fun with an M3, CLA AMG and a Mini JCW (193bhp), nog saying i was faster than the M3 and AMG but we had proper fun and both gave me a thumbs up afterwards AND i was faster than the Mini, it's my mate's and we did multiple runs so the Pumaspeed 190+ kit must be close to the claimed power.

Matt told me it would be OK to drive with the inlet without a remap for a while but that i would need to be carefull cause between 3- and 4000rpm it runs lean, is this with the original map or also with the Pumaspeed 190 map?

The reason i ask is that between installing the inlet and coming to the UK for a remap i need to install the GGR CAIS but since i need the ST this will be spread over multiple sessions (fabricating, measuring, ordering the needed parts, waiting for the ordered parts... ), so will it hurt the engine running without a dedicated remap or should i avoid running it?

I really don't know, I guess others may have done the same as you whilst awaiting mapping etc so best ask them or Jimmy, bottom line would be drive it but never thrash it or long drives at high speed, so urban 30mph would be fine and you would never go above 3000rpm anyway.

Mine was mapped for cams before I fitted the inlet, I ran it like that for a few months before having it mapped again, but didn't go over 5k and tried not to floor it, easier said than done though lol

Haha i get it, drive it like a baby untill i get the mapping sorted. And yeah, easier said then done indeed!

Great news, i've been in contact with the official ECU Masters distributor for Belgium and the Netherlands (JT Performance, situated in the Netherlands) and they are also able to do the same as Jamsport (EMU Black, plug & play, mounting, mapping) for the same price as Jamsport so that saves me a trip to the UK.

If everything goes well it should be done in September.

Thanks again for all the info, you guys have been very helpfull!

Another question for the experts:

Which size throttle body should i use? I'm currentle running the original and have the 60mm ready to go.

Matt told me the inlet is designed around the original TB but i noticed that the few mapped cars being discussed here run the 60mm TB.

And since Mountune uses the 60mm TB with there inlet and the FF inlet is designed around the MT inlet i'm kinda confused.

Most of us are using a 60mm but I don't think it's necessary, I can't tell any difference between the two.

Ok thx. I'll mount the original and maybe take the 60mm with me when they are going to install the EMU Black, since it's live mapping it should be easy and interesting to test the difference between them.

I am about ready to pull the trigger on an FF Inlet for my ST150 and later would follow the stage 2 Newman cams + map.

I have read just about every thread on various sites regarding this upgrade and asked around for information on the other parts that I would need to get this going. The feed back suggested there was a "shopping list of parts" on this forum? I can't find it and not for the want in trying....

So I would be very grateful if any of you guys that have completed this mod could reply with an idiots guide parts list and where to buy it all from.

Can you also tell me what I do with the PCV hose after the new intake is fitted?

I don't have EGR so no worries on that one or?

I have seen photos of various members cars some with new hoses and some with the original left on what's the advantages/disadvantages replacing or leaving?

There is advice to change an engine mount, what did you all go with for this?

pro's/cons of 55 - 60 throttle body?

Best air filter to fit the limited space?

If I've missed anything let me know?

and finally….. Once I have purchased all this lovely stuff would one of you come round, fit it all for me GRATIS whilst I talk crap and make tea???
TIA Gary

I got the FF manifold + map fitted by Jamsport on and it totally transforms the car in the low to mid rev range. However she only made 185bhp on the dyno, when might have expected 192 to 195 with a mountune 185, but probably needs a service and higher octane fuel.

Here are some photos - before - after - dyno test
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ah149/steveb_de/IMG_20201019_153658_8.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ah149/steveb_de/IMG_20201023_155914_5.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ah149/steveb_de/fiesta_st_dyno.mp4

Interesting! Did you have cams fitted as well? What torque did it make and have you got a printout?

Mountune provided Piper cams and valve Springs - fitted years ago.
Here is the video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDO1WcQ0GCY&feature=youtu.be

The car made 183bhp (not 185), torque 158ib-ft(214nm). So as well as better fuel, may need checks on valve clearances.
Here is the dyno printout:
https://hosting.photobucket.com/images/ah149/steveb_de/fiesta_st_dyno.jpeg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/ah149/steveb_de/cars/fiesta%20st/IMG_1140_zpsp61vtimk.jpg

https://hosting.photobucket.com/albums/ah149/steveb_de/cars/fiesta%20st/IMG_1138_zpsrhdgqkak.jpg

I think the thing is yours drops off quite quickly after the peak @6500.
The graph of mine from DS gives 190bhp @6500 but carries on climbing to 203bhp @7200, I dont know why it would be different though